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                                                          Haplogroup G Project
                              DNA Results and Groupings

                                  The G2a Clade with Duplicated Values for DYS19


For sure, all the men here are descended from a man who developed a second component of the
DYS19 marker.  Not enough is known of this second component to determine how likely it is to
change to another value as the first component is likely to do so.  It is unclear why several persons who
are clearly closely related to men with duplicated DYS19 only have a single value.  It is possible in some cases
the result was reported before labs began reporting duplicated values.

All the men on this page are G2a.   This means they will be positive in special SNP testing for general G (M201)
and G2 (P287) and G2a (P15).    Several members have been found negative for the G2a1 and G2a2
subgroups and G2a3 alone.   Hutchison has tested negative for all four subgroups.  However, one group of men
with duplicated DYS19 was found L91+.  So some men below may also be L91+

In addition one man below  tested positive for three new unnamed SNPs which will be found among
double DYS19 men as follows: rs13304806, rs810814 and rs810811.  These may belong only
to this man's family or they man represent important new subcategories.  Only additional testing will
determine the significance of these.

The Muniz entry at Y-Search indicates he belongs to haplogroup M1.  This is apparently a
typographical error.  The Family Tree DNA records do not show any testing for haplogroups for
him at that lab.  Nolen's first DYS385 value has to be ignored in comparisons because an ancestor apparently
underwent a mutation of mulriple values which was in effect a single mutation.  Most software 
will erroneously count this as multiple mutations.  However, there are problems with this sample --
even ignoring that one mutation.  In the phylogenetic diagrams he and Villoni share a branch with an
adjacent group that lacks the double DYS19 feature rather than with the double DYS19 group.
Presumably the double DYS19 is more important in determining the common ancestor.

The research study cited below is S.M. Adams et al., "The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and
Intolerance: Paternal Lineages of Christians, Jews and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula," American
Journal of Human Genetics, Dec 2008, vol 83(6), pp 725-36.   Research Study2 is Daniela Contu
et al., "Y-Chromosome Based Evidence ofr Pre-Neolithic Origin of the Genetically Homogeneous
but Diverse Sardinian Population: Inference for Association Scans," PLoSone, v. 3(1), 2008, on-line
publication.  Research Study3 is Daniel Vanek et al., "Kinship and Y-Chromosome Analysis of 7th
Century Human Remains: Novel DNA Extraction and Typing Procedure for Ancient Material,"
Croatia Medical Journal, 2009, vol 50(3), pp 286-95.  Research Study4 is Michael F. Hammer,
et al., "Extended Y Chromosome Haplotypes Resolve Multiple and Unique Lineages of the Jewish
Priesthood," Human Genetics, 8 Aug 2009, E-pub ahead of print.  

Research Study 3's skeleton has some potential to explain origins because it is over 1300 yrs old.  However,
it is just another mystery.  The duplicated DYS19 argues that it belongs on this page.  But it is not
a close match to anyone.  And it has the uncommon value of 13 for DYS388 which is seldom seen
outside the DYS388=13 (G2a3b1*) group.  And the DYS446 value over 20 is also seldom seen outisde
the DYS388=13 group. The sample thus seems to have features that could be arguably make it
part of either group.  Though the DYS19 values would have changed, it seems overall closest to
Stepp and is listed with him below.

The Creamer sample clusters with Peyton and Ray on the phylogenetic network though he has
only one value for DYS19 and despite the very odd value of his DYS388.  The lab
rechecked Creamer's DYS19 and was unable to find but one DYS19 value.  Because of his
clustering with duplicated DYS19 men on the phylogenetic network, his sample is placed on this page.
It is possible that one of his ancestors mutated to 15+15 and that would be read simply as 15 by
the lab.

For information on what is known of the origins of this grouping here and migrations and time
relationships to other G groupings link to the migration-time page.

The YHRD database is a collection of samples submitted by scientists worldwide.

Any italicized DYS426 value is only predicted, by virtually all G persons have the same value.

Recommended additional deep ancestry testing for men here with the interest and funds for this:

Because there are so few G2a*samples, upgrade to Family Tree DNA's 67 markers is always very useful in
determining proper relationships and for time calculations to common ancestors.  For deep ancestry purposes
only one person within a surname project needs the full 67 markers.  Additional testing within surname projects
might be indicated for more recent comparisons.

At Family Tree DNA for those tested there, in the haplotree section of a G2a* person's results page is listed 
also a deep clade test if he had not already been tested for all the G2a subgroups.  Presently, this will allow
testing of three of the four subgroups.  [And one of these was only recently added.  So it is very uncommon
now in April 2009 for anyone to have been tested for all four subgroups.]  The SNP for the fourth subgroup
was made available only days ago.  As of this writing only one man on this page has been tested for even
two of the four G2a categories.

So for complete testing one has first to order the deep clade test.  Then one would go to the Order Tests section
of the same results page.  There in the advanced tests section one will find toward the bottom in the G
section the SNP test L91 for $29US.   L91 is the SNP test for the G2a4 subcategory.  It is likely that L91
will be added in the future to the deep clade test.  It would then be less expensive overall to test for all
four categories. 

The deep clade test will check automatically for all presently known additional SNP categories relevant
to the men here if the person belongs to G2a1, G2a2 or G2a3.  G2a4 has no subcategories.  It is also
possible that one will be found truly negative for all G2a subgroups and thus just G2a*

Results  
1. A subgroup of DYS19= 15+17 with DYS393=14                                                                           

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
N30940	Floyd		X	MG3AC	14	23	15+17	10	13	15	11	12	11	13	11	30
	YHRDsample	PragueCzechR	X		14	23	15+17	10	13	15	11		11	13	11	31							16																				10
N8652	Nedrow		PART		14	22	15+17	10	13	15	11	12	13	13	11	31
25391	Harbinson	NCarolinaUSA	X	YR8UD	14	22	15+17	10	13	15	11	12	13	13	11	31	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	21	28	11	13	14	14
2254	Cline		X		14	22	15+17	10	13	15	11	12	13	13	11	31
2208	Cline		FULL		14	22	15+17	10	13	15	11	12	13	13	11	31	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	21	28	11	13	14	14
102100	Reid	NorthIreland	PART	MFXF5	14	23	15+16	10	14	15	11	12	11	13	11	30	18	8	9	11	11	26	16	21	31	13	13	14	14			11	11	20	20	15	15	19	19	35	35	12	10

2. A subgroup of DYS19=15+17 with DYS393=13   

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
97538	Frisch	Germany	GENL	5WR8K	13	22	15+17	10	14	16	11	12	12	14	11	31	17	9	9	11	12	23	16	22	31	12	12	14	16			10	11	20	20	15	13	18	20	31	37	11	10
N9061	Ribble	ALorraineFrance	PART	8ZB3K	13	22	15+17	11	14	16	11	12	12	14	11	30
	YHRDsample	OberoestereichAustr	X		13	22	15+17	10	14	16	11		12	14	11	30							16																				11
	YHRDsample	OberoestereichAustr	X		13	22	16+17	10	14	16	11		12	14	11	30							16																				10

3. A DYS19=14+15 subgroup  

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
N15058	Hutchison	WLothianScotland	ALL	XTYPY	14	22	14+15	10	13	15	11	12	11	13	11	31	16	9	9	11	11	23	15	21	30	12	12	13	14			11	10	20	20	12	14	20	17	35	35	12	10	13	7	15	16	8	11	10	8	11	11	12	22	24	14	10	12	12	15	8	11	21	21	14	13	11	13	10	11	11	12
111369	Proctor	Scotland	PART		14	22	14+15	10	13	15	11	12	11	13	11	31	17	9	9	11	11	23	15	21	30	11	12	13	14			11	10	20	20	12	14	19	20	35	35	12	10
N60603	Goza	Pollish?	X		14	22	14+15	10	13	15	11	12	11	13	11	31	16	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	30	12	12	13	14
	ResearchStudy2	n.Sardinia	GENL		14	22	14+15	11	12	14				14		30

4. A DYS19=15+16 Puerto Rican subgroup 

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
72418	RiveraAgosto	Puerto Rico	??	RKDJX	14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	14	11	30	18	9	9	11	12	23	16	22	27	12	13	13	13			10	11	20	20	16	14	19	16	35	36	12	10
65583	Muniz	Puerto Rico	X	AS3H2	14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	14	11	30
	YHRDsample	HispanicAmerican	X		14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11		11	14	11	30	18						16	22									12			16							10																																								23
29816	GerenaAguiar		X		14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	14	11	30
24213	GerenaAgosto	Puerto Rico	X	62HGM	14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	15	11	31	18	9	9	11	12	23	16	22	27	12	13	13	13			10	11	20	20	16	14	19	19	35	36	12	10
N6810	Perez Torres	Puerto Rico	PART	DFF88	14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	15	11	31	18	9	9	11	12	23	16	22	27	12	13	13	13			10	11	20	20	16	14	20	19	35	36	12	10
109631	Cruz Rivera	Puerto Rico	FULL		14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	15	11	31	18	9	9	11	12	23	16	22	27	12	13	13	13			10	11	20	20	16	14	20	19	35	36	12	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	10	12	21	23	14	10	12	12	17	8	12	21	22	14	13	11	13	10	11	11	12
N56640	Lopez	Puerto Rico	X		14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11	12	11	15	11	31
	YHRDsample	HispanicAmerican	X		14	21	15+16	10	13	14	11		11	15	11	31

5. One DYS19=15+16 subgroup                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
	Research study	S.Portugal	GENL		15	22	15+16	10	13	17		12	11	14	11	30							16									10											10																14																11						12
	YHRDsample	Colombia(mestizo)	X		14	22	15+16	10	13	17	11		11	14	11	30	19						16	22									12			14							10																																								22
62580	Peyton		PART	S7CXS	14	22	15+16	11	13	17	11	12	12	14	11	32	18	8	8	11	11	25	16	21	31	13	13	13	15			10	11	20	20	14	14	16	19	33	37	11	10	11	8	15	17	8	11	10	8	11	10	15	22	22	15	10	12	12	15	8	13	22	23	14	13	11	15	10	11	11	12
18254	Ray	N.Ireland	PART	VGBHQ	14	22	15+16	11	13	17	11	12	12	14	11	32	18	8	9	11	11	25	16	21	31	13	13	13	15			10	11	20	20	14	14	16	19	33	37	11	10	11	8	15	17	8	11	10	8	11	10	12	22	22	15	10	12	12	15	8	13	22	23	14	13	11	15	10	11	11	12
	Ray	OhioUSA	?	DKT5X	14	22	15+16	11	13	17	11	12	12	14	11	32	18			11	11	25		21	31	13	13	13	15			10		20	20																																							14	11	24
N35877	Creamer		PART		14	22	15	11	13	17	11	9	12	14	11	32	18	8	9	11	11	24	14	21	30	13	13	13	14			10	11	20	20	14	14	18	18	33	36	11	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	10	11	12	22	23	15	10	12	12	14	8	13	20	24	14	13	11	15	10	11	11	12
49950	Pinajian	Turkey	PAR3		14	22	15+16	10	13	16	11	12	12	14	11	31	17	8	8	11	11	25	14	22	27	12	13	13	13
	Research study 5	Yemen(Jewish)	PART		14	22	15+16	11	15	17	11	12	15	12	11	29	19	8	9	11	11	22		21	29																		10																11

6. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup [with an ancient skeleton]                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
	ResearchStudy3	e.BavariaGermany	X		14		14+15				11	13	11	12	11	29		9	9			23	16																				10
33177	Stepp	Germany	GENL	WW3JU	14	22	15+16	10	14	15	11	12	11	12	11	30	17	9	9	11	11	23	16	21	29	12	12	13	13			10	10	20	20	17	12	20	17	36	36	11	10	11	9	16	16	8	12	10	8	11	10	12	20	22	14	10	12	12	17	8	13	25	20	17	13	11	13	10	11	11	12

7. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
31948	Mayo	Turkey	GENL	Y4B97	13	23	15+16	10	14	18	11	12	11	13	11	30	19	9	9	11	11	24	16	20	29	11	12	12	13			11	13	20	20	12	13	17	19	38	38	11	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	--	22	22	14	10	12	12	18	8	12	21	22	14	13	11	10	10	11	11	12
42012	deMayo	Greece	X		13	23	15+16	10	14	18	11	12	11	13	11	30	19	9	9	11	11	24	16	20	29	11	12	12	13			11	13	20	20	13	13	17	19	38	39	11	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	12	22	22	14	10	12	12	18	8	12	21	22	14	13	11	10	10	11	11	12
34997	Mayo	Spain.to.Greece	GENL	8UNNY	13	23	15+16	10	14	18	11	12	10	13	11	30	19	9	9	11	11	24	16	20	29	11	12	12	13			11	13	20	20	13	13	17	19	38	38	11	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	--	22	22	14	10	12	12	18	8	12	21	22	14	13	11	10	10	11	11	12

8. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
	Villoni	Italy	?	DW6WC	14	23	15+16	10	14	14	11	12	11	12	11	28	17	9	9	11	12	22	16	21	30	12	14	14	15			10	11	20	20	14	13	18	21	35	38	12	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	10	12	22	22	14	10	12	12	14	8	14	22	21	14	13	11	13	10	11	11	11
90089	Nolen	SCarolinaUSA	PART	4HQ5E	14	23	15+16	10	9	14	11	12	11	12	13	29	17	9	9	11	12	23	16	21	31	12	14	15	15			10	11	20	20	15	13	18	20	39	40	11	10	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	10	12	20	21	14	10	12	12	17	8	14	22	21	14	13	11	13	10	11	11	12

9. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
99373	Boghossian	Turkey	X	HE6S4	14	22	15+16	9	12	13	11	12	11	14	11	32
N31172	Parsons	Newf'landCanada	PART	G5HQM	14	22	15+16	10	12	14	11	12	14	14	11	30
N24176	Maranas	Greece	X	RT43C	14	22	15+16	10	13	15	11	12	12	14	11	32
	YHRDsample	Orel Russia	X		14	22	15+16	10	13	15	11		12	14	11	32	18						17	20									12			16							10																																								22
	YHRDsample	CologneGermany	X		14	22	15+17	10	13	15	11		12	14	11	32	19						16	21									12			16							10																																								21

10. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup                                                                          

                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
N15072	Sahota	India	PART		13	22	15+16	10	14	14	11	12	12	13	11	29
	YHRDsample	BerlinGermany	X		13	22	15+16	10	14	14	11		11	13	11	30																											10
	3YHRDsamples	Turkey	X		13	22	15+16	10	14	14	11			13	11	30
N31942	Turco	Italy	PART		14	22	15+16	10	14	16	11	12	11	13	11	30
N56794	Lajoie	France	X		14	22	15+16	10	14	16	11	12	11	13	11	30
N5001	Ceaser		PART	GY5HH	14	22	15+16	10	14	15	11	12	11	13	11	30	17	8	9	11	11	26	16	21	31	13	13	14	14			11	11	20	20	15	15	21	18	34	35	12	10
46824	Reed	Ireland	GENL	9FF92	14	23	15+16	10	14	16	11	12	11	13	11	30	18	8	9	11	11	26	16	21	31	13	13	14	14			11	11	20	20	15	15	20	19	33	35	12	11

11. Another DYS19=15+16 subgroup