                                                           Haplogroup G Project
                              DNA Results and Groupings

                                                                     The G2a3b1a1 Clade

All the men on this page are likely G2a3b1a1. This means they will be positive in special SNP testing for general G (M201) and G2 (P287) and G2a (P15) and for G2a3 (U8 or S126 or L30) and for G2a3b (L141) and for G2a3b1 (P303). Persons from this clade were also postive for U1 (G2a3b1a), as well as positive for U13 or L13 or S131 (G2a3b1a1) The other members of this clade below with more than 12 markers available to allow confirmation of their membership in the clade will have the same SNP test results. Recently four G2a3b1a1 men here (Beiler, Christy, Frederick and Young) were found positive for a new SNP designated L78. This is apparently not found outside the G2a3b1a1 group, but whether it has the same coverage as L13 or represents a new G2a3b1a1 subgroup is unclear because more men within G2a3b1a1 need to be tested to find if some G2a3b1a1 men are negative.

Slowly mutating markers are most useful in identifying subgroups within a clade when there are no more subcategories that can be identified by special SNP testing. The first few subclades listed below do share changes to slowly mutating markers.

The close relatedness of persons within the subclades shown is confirmed by special DNA software (Fluxus) using the 67-markers samples available.

While the remaining subclades lack an oddity at a slow marker, the Fluxus software suggests a clustering of the men shown in these subclades. And there are some characteristic marker combinations. These subclades that rely on combinations of marker values are not precisely defined, and it is probable that a few other persons should be listed with them.

For information on what is known of the origins of the L13+ group and migrations and time relationships to other G groupings link to the migration-time page

The research study listed below is S.M. Adams et al., "The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and Intolerance: Paternal Lineages of Christians, Jews and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula," American Journal of Human Genetics , Dec 2008, vol 83(6), pp 725-36.   Research Study2 is F. Alshamali, "Local Population Structure in Arabian Peninsula Revealed by Y-STR Diversity," Human Heredity , 2009, vol. 68(1), pp 44-54.    Research Study3 is Daniel Vanek et al., "Kinship and Y-Chromosome Analysis of 7th Century Human Remains: Novel DNA Extraction and Typing Procedure for Ancient Material,"Croatia Medical Journal, 2009, vol 50(3), pp 286-95. The fragmentary results from this important sample are probably closest to Brabec among today's men, but it is actually unlikely that Brabec's ancestor would have been an exact match to him 1300 yrs earlier. This German skeleton is conceivably also possibly a member of the DYS568=9 group rather than the group on this page.

This latter sample has such potential to explain origins because it is over 1300 yrs old. However, it is just another mystery at present.

One can find additional G2a3b1a1samples in the Sorenson DNA database under the surnames of Bischoff, Hubert, Peloni, Schueler, Beiler, Dobson and Nead.

In the YHRD database, the most common values among the DYS385= 12,14 men below the exact 9 marker matches are found in Chemnitz, Leizpig, Magdeburg, Munich, Stuttgart, Cologne, Freiburg, Rostock, Dresden and Halle in Germany; Central Bohemia, Zim, Pardubice, Moravia-Silesia and Pizen in the Czech Republic; Latium, Ligoria and Sicily in Italy; Oberoesterich and Graz in Austria; Brussels, Belgium; Oslo, Norway; Corund, Romania (Szekely); Szczecu, Gdansk, Warsaw and s.e. Poland; Hungary and Portugal. It is likely because of the odd combination of values that these YHRD men are G2a3b1a1.

A G2a3b1a1 study group exists for sharing Y-DNA research and family histories for the purpose of developing a timeline perspective of their heritage. Contact John Young for more information.

Recommended additional deep ancestry testing for men here with the interest and funds for this:

Upgrading to 67 markers for deep ancestry purposes can be useful in helping to better establish
relationships and time calculations to a common ancestor. While the first 37 markers have proven useful
in categorizing some men below, only in one group have markers 38-67 been helpful. Having persons
here upgrade to 67 markers is probably not a priority because we have quite a number of samples at present.
However, any aditional 67-marker samples are welcome additions to the phylogenetic network and may be
very useful in surname projects.

All tested persons in the L13+ group have tested positive for the P303 SNP which characterizes G2a3b1.
But confirmation of positivity for P303's subgroup L13 is still needed for some men below
because the boundaries of L13 are not firmly defined. It is possible that one can be genetically
close to some men below who are confimed L13+ and still not be L13+. In particular we do not know the
boundaries for the intermediate SNP U1, and some men below may be U1+ and U13-. Additional L13 testing
would eliminate this fuzzy area in our data. L13 is part of what is called the deep clade SNP test found in the
haplotree section of the individual Family Tree DNA results page.   Only one person from a surname group
needs to test for L13 as everyone else in the surname project will have the same findings.   U1 is also available
at Family Tree DNA on one's results page. Choose Order Tests and then select Advanced Tests. U1 is
located near the top of the SNP lists.

It would be particularly helpful if additional persons here would test for the L78 to define whether it represents
a new subgroup. L78 is available on one's results page at Family Tree DNA. Choose Order Tests and then
select Advances Tests. L78 is located near the top of the SNP listing and sells for $29US.

Results

1. English ancestry subclade with DYS392=10

2. British Isles ancestry subclade with DYS454=12 and DYS395S1a=16
Marker designations in blue

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin Haplo
Code YSearch
Link 393 390 19
(394) 391 385
a 385
b 426 388 439 389
i 392 389
ii 458 459
a 459
b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a 464
b 464
c 464
d 464
e 464
f 460 GATA
H4 YCA
IIa YCA
IIb 456 607 576 570 CDY
a CDY
b 442 438 531 578 395
S1a 395
S1b 590 537 641 472 406
S1 511 425 413
a 413
b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10 YGATA
H4.1 462 GGAAT
1807 635

11234 Young MarylandUSA MUCH WST6D 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 37 38 11 10 11 8 16 16 8 11 10 8 13 12 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 17 8 12 21 22 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
74129 Maynor MarylandUSA X V53VJ 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 11 19 20 15 13 17 18 37 38 11 10 11 8 16 16 8 11 10 8 13 12 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 17 8 12 21 22 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
N8605 Maynard Scotland PART NGR5B 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 18 37 38 11 10 11 8 16 16 8 11 10 8 13 12 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 17 8 12 21 22 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
30272 Maynor MarylandUSA X 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14
Maynor .MarylandUSA ? P57H3 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14
105587 ..........Hadland.......... X 72E7V 13 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 12 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 36 38 11 10 11 8 16 16 8 11 10 8 13 12 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 17 8 12 21 24 17 14 11 13 10 11 11 11

3. British Isles ancestry subclade with DYS459a=7

Marker designations in blue

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin Haplo
Code YSearch
Link 393 390 19
(394) 391 385
a 385
b 426 388 439 389
i 392 389
ii 458 459
a 459
b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a 464
b 464
c 464
d 464
e 464
f 460 GATA
H4 YCA
IIa YCA
IIb 456 607 576 570 CDY
a CDY
b 442 438 531 578 395
S1a 395
S1b 590 537 641 472 406
S1 511 425 413
a 413
b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10 YGATA
H4.1 462 GGAAT
1807 635

26886 Tims X E6UCW 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 16 38 38 12 10
12592 Horton X RTW87 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14
19356 Horton VirginiaUSA PART AY5J2 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14
Horton ? SUD2W 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14
Horton ? 7A27B 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14
Horton ? 58F8Q 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30
Horton ? UYC9Y 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30
N49449 Horton LeicesterEngl LOTS Q2HJ8 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 10 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 16 39 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 22 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 21 25 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
118051 Horton X 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 18 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 16 38 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 22 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 21 25 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
87745 Horton VirginiaUSA X QVUZ3 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 16 37 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 22 15 10 12 12 15 8 13 21 25 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
N34379 ..........Phibbs*.......... OhioUSA X TTFUJ 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30
137080 ..........Phibbs*.......... Ireland MORE f26rx 14 22 15 10 13 14 11 12 12 12 11 30 19 7 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 18 17 39 39 12 10

4. British Isles and Syrian subclade with DYS390=23

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin Haplo
Code YSearch
Link 393 390 19
(394) 391 385
a 385
b 426 388 439 389
i 392 389
ii 458 459
a 459
b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a 464
b 464
c 464
d 464
e 464
f 460 GATA
H4 YCA
IIa YCA
IIb 456 607 576 570 CDY
a CDY
b 442 438 531 578 395
S1a 395
S1b 590 537 641 472 406
S1 511 425 413
a 413
b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10 YGATA
H4.1 462 GGAAT
1807 635

9315 Hopkins GeorgiaUSA PART ZBN3A 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 17 9 9 11 11 23 16 20 28 12 13 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 36 38 12 10 12 8 15 16 8 12 10 8 12 11 15 21 22 15 10 12 12 14 8 12 21 23 17 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
80369 .........Williams......... ...GeorgiaUSA..... PART 58X66 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 17 9 9 11 11 23 16 19 28 12 13 14 14 12 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 36 38 12 10 12 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 15 21 22 15 10 12 12 14 8 12 21 23 17 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
85408 Birch OhioUSA SOME 35VEW 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 28 12 12 13 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 35 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 21 22 15 10 12 12 14 8 12 21 23 18 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
92944 Birch OhioUSA PART J75BR 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 28 12 12 13 14 14 14 11 10 20 22 15 13 17 18 35 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 21 22 15 10 12 12 14 8 12 21 23 18 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
N14611 Cohen Syria X 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 11 23 16 20 27 12 14 14 15 12 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 33 38 11 10
N57240 Higdon GENL HWHSE 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 20 27 12 13 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 18 36 38 12 10
108469 Kirk GENL 8U6EU 13 23 15 10 12 14 11 12 11 12 11 29 17 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 12 13 13 14 14 11 11 19 20 15 13 18 17 36 40 12 10

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin Haplo
Code YSearch
Link 393 390 19
(394) 391 385
a 385
b 426 388 439 389
i 392 389
ii 458 459
a 459
b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a 464
b 464
c 464
d 464
e 464
f 460 GATA
H4 YCA
IIa YCA
IIb 456 607 576 570 CDY
a CDY
b 442 438 531 578 395
S1a 395
S1b 590 537 641 472 406
S1 511 425 413
a 413
b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10 YGATA
H4.1 462 GGAAT
1807 635

80809 Stone X 87AG2 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 28 12 14 14 14 12 10 19 20 15 14 14 15 36 38 11 10
50023 Stone X 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 20 8 9 11 11 23 16 21 27 12 14 14 14 12 10 19 20 15 14 16 15 36 37 11 10
Stone ? Q9QBA 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 20 8 9 11 11 23 16 21 27 12 14 14 14 12 10 19 20 15 14 16 15 36 37 11 10
Willis NewYorkUSA ? QEFCF 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 28 12 14 14 14 12 10 19 20 15 13 16 15 37 37 11 10
21057 Spencer TennesseeUSA X QYDXM 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 11 10 12 11 14 12 23
N17786 Beistel* PennyslvaniaUSA LOTS 7W3MR 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29
N1920 Lafon France LOTS NAYMC 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29
N51018 Mohar* MissouriUSA X WDST4 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29
YHRD sample CologneGermany 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 19 16 20 11 15 10 21
YHRD sample WroclawPoland 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 20 16 20 11 15 10 21
YHRD sample USEuroAmerican 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 19 16 21 11 15 10 20
YHRD sample USHispanic 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 13 12 11 29 18 16 21 11 14 10 21
Harasztosi Romania ? HEH7Y 14 22 14 10 12 15 11 12 11 12 11 29 9 9 11 11 22 16 17 28 12 14 14 14 12 9 19 20 15 11 10 13 16 14 12 20 10 26 12 12 10 21
Hensarling ? Y8X6H 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 36 40 11 10
Henserling ? 32S3E 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 18 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 36 40 11 10
Hensarling ? WB8RD 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 14 14
Hensarling ? EGJ2H 14 22 16 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 28 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 37 40 11 10
Hensarling ? YNY9E 14 22 16 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 28 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 36 40 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 13 11 14 22 24 14 10 12 12 16 8 12 21 22 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
Heinzerling ? Q5A8U 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 36 40 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 24 14 10 12 12 16 8 12 21 22 16 14 11 13 10 11 11 11
94208 Sebestyen* GENL 14 22 14 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 28
161529 Weber Germany X 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 18 8 9 10 11 22 16 20 27 12 12 14 14 14 14 10 10 19 20 15 13 17 17 36 40 11 10
Bopp Germany ? C6EX8 14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 19 9 9 11 11 22 16 20 27 12 14 14 14 11 10 19 20


Kit No.	Surname	Ancestral.origin	Haplo Code	YSearch Link	393	390	19 (394)	391	385 a	385 b	426	388	439	389 i	392	389 ii	458	459 a	459 b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464 a	464 b	464 c	464 d	464 e	464 f	460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438	531	578	395 S1a	395 S1b	590	537	641	472	406 S1	511	425	413 a	413 b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565	441	461	463	445	452	YGATA A10	YGATA H4.1	462	GGAAT 1807	635
41194	Barton	TennesseeUSA	X	DSA8Q	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	11	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	41	11	11	11	8	15	16	8	10	10	8	12	11
	Barton		?	8VRAU	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29				11	11	23	16									11		19	20								11																																10				12		12	11	20
39798	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	PART	TC36X	13	22	15	10	12	16	11	12	12	12	10	29	19	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			10	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	39	11	11	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	14	22	22	15	10	12	12	17	8	12	21	22	18	14	11	13	10	11	11	11		11						12		22
30611	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	ALL	ZMW2E	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	39	11	11	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	14	22	22	15	10	12	12	17	8	12	21	22	18	14	11	13	10	11	11	11
46755	Bentley		X		13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	19	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	38	11	11
140677	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	X	VZB2Y	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	30	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	12	14	14	14	14	11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	39	11	11	11	8	15	16	8	11	10	8	12	11	14	22	22	15	10	12	12	17	8	12	21	22	18	14	11	13	10	11	11	11
30708	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	X		13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	38	11	11
152393	Bentley	NYorkUSA	X	9CPTB	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	17	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	29	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	18	33	41	11	11
31195	Bentley		X		13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	30	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	39	11	11
33190	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	X	S2URC	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	30	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14			11	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	37	11	11
34448	Bentley	BedfordshEngl	X		13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	15			12	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	40	11	11
	Dell		?	76UB5	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	15			12	10	19	20	15	13	17	17	33	40	11	11
	Austin	RhodeIslUSA	?	K8TYN	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29	18	9	9	11	11	23	16	20	28	12	14	14	14
N3615	..........Sargent*...........		GENL	J8CRW	13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	28
155360	German*		X		13	22	15	10	12	15	11	12	12	12	10	29