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                                                             Haplogroup G Project
                              DNA Results and Groupings

                                                      European G2a3b1 individuals who
                       seem most closely related to the DYS388=13 group


The G2a3b1 status means the men will be positive in special SNP testing for general G (M201)
and G2 (P287) and G2a (P15) and for G2a3 (U8 or S126 or L30) and for G2a3b (L141) and for
G2a3b1 (P303).

The men here clearly do not have the marker values associated with two SNP subgroups of G2a3b1 or of
two subgroups defined by having DYS568=9 or DYS388=13.  Their status with regard to one SNP
subgroup characterized by being positive for U1 is still undetermined, as is their status with regard to
an experimental SNP L140 which may or may not have the same coverage as P303.
 
The diagrams produced by special DNA software by Fluxus -- using 67-marker samples --
aggregates together fairly accurately those belonging to the same subhaplogroup.  On such diagrams, 
the Labuz sample is on a single branch that originates from the large DYS388=13 group of
Europe, but the separate branching indicates a common ancestor with the other DYS388=13 persons
deeper in ancestry.   This proximity on the diagram to the DYS388=13 group is an imperfect
listing of relationships, and only SNP testing will resolve the relationship to the other group.
Likewise Zaremba is on a separate branch from the DYS388=13 group.  He is too far distant from
this group to have developed the mutation to 13 at the same time as the other men.  I suspect this
was a separate rare conversion from the 12 to 13, and sharing the 13 may be why he shows up off
of the DYS388= 13 group.  Zaremba is not closely related to Labuz.  Chenette is also on a branch
off of one of the DYS388= 13 men.  Similarly Rangaswamy is on a long branch originating in
the DYS388= 13 group.

For information on what is known of the origins of the overall G2a3b1 group and migrations and time
relationships to other G groupings link to the migration-time page .

The Research Study mentioned below is Alshamali, F., "Local Population Structure in Arabian Peninsula
Revealed by Y-STR Diversity," Human Heredity, 2009, vol. 65(1), pp 45-54.  Research Study # 2
is S. Sengupta, "Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in
India...," American Journal of Human Genetics, 2006, vol. 78(2), pp 202-21.

The YHRD database is a collection of samples submitted by scientists worldwide.
The italicized 11 for DYS426 below is only predicted but virtually all G persons have this value. 


Recommended additional deep ancestry testing for men here with the interest and funds for this:

Upgrading to 67 markers does have value for persons on this page because it will help to more accurately establish
relationships and time calculations with common ancestors.

Because multiple persons below have tested positive for the P303 SNP which characterizes G2a3b1, it is very
likely everyone listed here with more than 12 markers will likewise be the same.  SNP testing can be ordered
as what is called the deep clade SNP test in the haplotree section of the individual Family Tree DNA results
page.  P303 (G2a3b1) is included in this deep clade test.  

The status of these men with regard to one subgroup of G2a3b1 is yet to be defined.  This test, U1, can be ordered
at Family Tree DNA on the results page in the Order Tests section.  This is an advanced test.  When the SNP box
is checked, this test will appear at the top of the page and can be ordered for $29US each.    Also found there is L140.  
Theoretically men in this grouping on this page would be positive for this because it seems to be positive in all G2a3b1 men,
but the lack of a SNP or marker oddity to identify the men here means it is possible that one or the other men might
be negative for L140, and that would mean they belong to a new group.



Results   


                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin
 
Haplo
Code
 
YSearch
Link
393 390 19
(394)
391 385
a
385
b
426 388 439 389
i
392 389
ii
458 459
a
459
b
455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
464
e
464
f
460 GATA
H4
YCA
IIa
YCA
IIb
456 607 576 570 CDY
a
CDY
b
442 438 531 578 395
S1a
395
S1b
590 537 641 472 406
S1
511 425 413
a
413
b
557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10
YGATA
H4.1
462 GGAAT
1807
635
60293
Labuz
      Poland
MUCH
3VPV7
14 22 16 10 14 15 11 12 12 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 13 13 13 14 11 11 20 20 15 13 18 20 35 36 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 11 11 13 24 24 14 10 12 12 14 8 13 21 22 18 13 11 14 10 11 11 12 14 11 20 10 7 12 11 11 20
N20567
Smith
       Germany
PART
5XSUK
14 22 16 10 13 13 11 13 10 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 30 12 13 13 14 10 11 20 20 16 12 15 17 36 36 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 11 11 13 22 22 14 10 12 12 14 9 13 22 23 19 12 11 13 10 11 11 12
125961 
Lengel
Germany
MUCH
 
14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 21 17 21 32 11 13 13 13 10 10 20 20 15 12 18 17 34 38 12 10 11 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 11 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 15 8 12 21 22 16 12 10 13 10 11 11 12
154971 
Lingle
PennsylvaniaUSA
X
 
14 22 15 10 12 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 22 17 21 32 11 13 13 13 11 10 20 20 15 12 18 17 34 38 12 10
N56429
Zaremba
      Poland
X
DBXB6
14 21 15 10 13 14 11 13 10 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 32 12 13 13 14 10 11 20 20 16 12 16 17 35 38 11 10 11 8 14 15 8 11 10 8 11 11 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 16 8 12 21 22 19 12 11 13 10 11 11 13
N45470
Koch
      Austria
PART
EJ6WT
14 23 14 10 14 14 11 12 12 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 20 32 12 12 13 14 11 11 20 20 15 13 17 18 33 34 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 11 11 14 22 22 15 10 12 12 14 8 13 22 21 19 14 11 13 10 12 11 12
 
YHRDsample*
WroclawPoland
X
 
14 23 14 11 14 14 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
MunichGermany
X
 
14 23 15 11 14 14 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
AntioquiaColombia
X
 
14 23 15 11 14 14 11 12 11 29
 
3YHRDsamples*
Finland
X
 
14 23 15 11 14 14 11 11 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
HispanicAmerican
X
 
14 23 15 11 14 14 11 11 12 11 29 20 16 20 12 15 10 21
 
YHRDsample*
CaucaColombia
X
 
14 23 15 11 14 14 11 12 12 11 29 16 16 20 11 14 10 21
N67835
Ruiz
Spain
MUCH
S38W4
14 22 15 10 14 15 11 12 12 13 11 29 17 9 9 11 11 22 14 21 29 13 13 13 14 11 11 20 20 15 13 17 17 32 33 11 10 11 8 15 16 8 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 14 8 13 21 23 18 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
N63509
Lombardo
Italy
GENL
J5KBW
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 12 11 29 20 9 9 11 11 24 17 21 30 12 13 14 15 11 20 20 15 16 10 13 17 16 11 22 11 29 15 12 11 21
 
2YHRDsamples*
AfricanAmericans
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
Veneto Italy
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
Finland
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
Verona Italy
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
SalzburgAustria
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 12 11 29 15 9
 
YHRDsample*
Sweden
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 9
 
YHRDsample*
Qena Egypt
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 19 16 20 11 14 10 21
 
YHRDsample*
SalzburgAustria
X
 
13 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 12 11 29 16 10
55203
Chenette
France
MUCH
MF3GF
15 22 15 10 14 15 11 14 11 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 15 22 32 12 13 13 15 10 12 20 22 15 13 14 18 38 39 11 10
85695
Charles
ShropshireEngl
PART
753CX
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 15 21 26 12 13 13 14 10 10 20 20 16 12 17 16 35 39 11 10
 
Whiting
England
?
WU4QK
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 22 16 21 26 12 13 13 14 10 10 19 20 16 12 18 18 37 39 11 10
 
YHRDsample*
CentralPortugal
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
RostockGermany
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
Caccamo Italy
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 13 12 11 29 16 10
 
YHRDsample*
BohemiaCzechRep
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 13 12 11 29 16 10
 
YHRDsample*
BialystokPoland
(Lithuanian)
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 12 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
ChihuahuaMexico
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 13 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
Verona Italy
X
 
14 23 15 10 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 10
N70655
Colagrosso
Italy
MANY
HPEFW
14 22 15 10 15 16 11 12 10 12 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 27 12 13 13 13 11 12 20 21 15 14 15 18 36 38 11 10 11 8 15 16 9 11 10 8 12 11 14 22 22 13 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 22 16 13 11 15 10 11 11 13
 
YHRDsample*
Troina Italy
 
 
14 22 15 11 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
Umbria Italy
 
 
14 22 15 11 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
DigoraOssetiaRussia
 
 
14 22 15 11 14 15 11 12 11 29
 
YHRDsample*
ThraceGreece
 
 
14 22 15 11 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 10
 
YHRDsample*
BuenosAiresArgent
 
 
14 22 15 11 14 15 11 11 12 11 29 10
118837
Robbins
England
MUCH
dxe49
15 22 14 10 12 14 11 12 10 13 11 30 18 9 9 11 11 22 16 21 30 11 13 13 14
129584
Robbins
England
GENL
SKPHK
15 22 14 10 12 14 11 12 10 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 22 16 21 30 11 13 13 14 10 11 20 20 15 12 16 17 36 38 11 10
ResearchStudy*
Dubai
X
 
14 22 15 10 12 15 11 12 12 11 31
N7912
Longo
Italy
MUCH
SDTFW
14 22 15 10 15 15 11 12 12 12 11 28 19 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 26 12 13 13 13 11 11 20 20 15 13 16 18 35 39 11 11 11 8 15 16 9 11 10 8 13 10 15 22 22 13 10 12 12 14 8 11 21 22 16 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 

Indian subgroup                                                                          


                                                                                                                                     Marker designations in blue

Kit No. Surname Ancestral.origin
 
Haplo
Code
 
YSearch
Link
393 390 19
(394)
391 385
a
385
b
426 388 439 389
i
392 389
ii
458 459
a
459
b
455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
464
e
464
f
460 GATA
H4
YCA
IIa
YCA
IIb
456 607 576 570 CDY
a
CDY
b
442 438 531 578 395
S1a
395
S1b
590 537 641 472 406
S1
511 425 413
a
413
b
557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565 441 461 463 445 452 YGATA
A10
YGATA
H4.1
462 GGAAT
1807
635
N2954
Samuelson/Iyer*
s.e. India
X
ND844
15 22 15 10 13 16 11 12 13 12 11 28      
N71043
Rangaswamy
s. India
MUCH
YJ2QF
16 22 15 10 13 16 11 12 13 12 11 28 17 9 9 11 11 23 16 21 32 12 12 14 14 11 11 18 20 16 12   19 18  36 37 12 10 12 8 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 11 14 22 22 14 10 12 12 12 8 12 21 22 16 13 11 13 11 11 11 11
 
YHRDsample*
Malaysia
X
 
16 22 15 10 13 16 11 12 12 11 28 10
 
ResearchStudy2*
3 samples
s.India
(High Caste)
MINI
 
16 22 15 10 11 12 13 12 11 28       11
 
ResearchStudy2*
s.India
(High Caste)
MINI
 
15 22 15 10 11 12 12 12 11 28       11
 
ResearchStudy2*
s, India
(High Caste)
MINI
 
15 22 15 10 11 12 11 12 11 28       11
 
ResearchStudy2*
s.India
(High Caste)
MINI
 
15 22 15 10 11 12 13 12 11 28       11
 
ResearchStudy2*
s.India
(High Caste)
MINI
 
16 22 15 10 11 12 12 12 11 28      


               *An asterisk indicates not enough markers are available
                to determine this is the best categorization for this sample


Haplogroup SNP Testing Codes
                   Negative test results not relevant to this group are not shown.
X - not tested 
? - unclear what testing was or was not done
GENL - was found positive only for M201, the SNP that characterizes plain G...not tested further
MINI - was found positive for P15 (G2a) but not tested further
PART - was found positive for M201 (G) and P15 (G2a) but not tested for other relevant SNPs such as P303.
MUCH -- was found positive for M201 (G) and P15 (G2a)
                      and positive for P303 (G2a3b)

Link to Haplogroup G Tree Structure